Did you (or will you) buy a V6 or V8 2015 Genesis This Year?

[Nikgen]

First of all, suggesting that wanting a V8 is immature is petty. I love the feeling of quickly accelerating and am not immature.

Bottom line here folks is that the V6 is pretty quick and the V8 is quicker. In terms of being nimbler, once I'm in sport mode the V8 is every bit as nimble as the V6.

My 5.0 is AWD so it won't flounder in any conditions

I didn't say that wanting a V8 was immature - I suggested aid that stoplight racing was - and I stand by that. My 5.0 floundering in adverse winter conditions comment clearly referred to the US 5.0 RWD model - and I stand by that.

Honestly, after driving both before settling on the 3.8 AWD, the 3.8 AWD just felt a little better to me in terms of ride/handling/road noise versus the 5.0. (and no AWD, heated seats or heated steering wheel meant no 5.0 for me here in the Northeast US the end anyhow). Some make it out to be a huge difference in performance, but I found the real world difference, while noticeable, to be not really that significant. For me (in the US), the 3.8 AWD was a better overall package with only one minor little trade-off to it's more powerful sibling - while adding many benefits not available on the 5.0 here.

 

[ferrethouse]

not talking about age - talking about maturity. And stop light racing is not the latter.

There is more to having horsepower than stop light racing and I don't think anyone here with a V8 suggested they bought it for that purpose.

 

[ferrethouse]

Some make it out to be a huge difference in performance, but I found the real world difference, while noticeable, to be not really that significant.

I probably would have purchased the V6 had I not previously owned the first gen V8.

I realize that peak HP doesn't tell the whole story (area under the curve is more important) but these are the numbers...

Genesis V6: 13.78 lbs per HP <-- pretty good number
Genesis V8: 11.136 lbs per HP <-- really good number

For comparison...

Accord V6: 12.8 lbs per HP

 

[jimb100]

I didn't say that wanting a V8 was immature - I suggested aid that stoplight racing was - and I stand by that. My 5.0 floundering in adverse winter conditions comment clearly referred to the US 5.0 RWD model - and I stand by that.

Honestly, after driving both before settling on the 3.8 AWD, the 3.8 AWD just felt a little better to me in terms of ride/handling/road noise versus the 5.0. (and no AWD, heated seats or heated steering wheel meant no 5.0 for me here in the Northeast US the end anyhow). Some make it out to be a huge difference in performance, but I found the real world difference, while noticeable, to be not really that significant. For me (in the US), the 3.8 AWD was a better overall package with only one minor little trade-off to it's more powerful sibling - while adding many benefits not available on the 5.0 here.

You set up a strawman with the stoplight racing comments and then knocked him down. Not a worthy effort.

The implication that anyone buying the V8 is immature is also without merit.

The fact that the V6 0-60 time is 6.5 sec and the V8 is 5.2 is very significant. No matter how you want to spin it, that difference is very noticeable. Not a matter of preference or "feel", those are the numbers.

Hyundai should make the AWD V8 avalable in the US. The fact they don't shouldn't cause anyone to say the V8 isn't worthwhile because I wanted the AWD and could only get it in the V6.

 

[Nikgen]

Who told you that?

0-60 in 5.2 seconds. Should do the 1/4 in the low 13 sec range. Staggered tire sizes for better steering feel and traction. Z rated tires, dbl wishbone suspension.

Drive one, look at the specs. Drive a Jag XF, 535, A6. Then decide for yourself.

I have one (V6 AWD) and drove the V8. There is much more to a performance sedan than 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. The Genesis does not handle like a performance sedan. I drove the the 535 and A6 and they are noticeably better handling cars on anything other than a straight road. However, I prefer the more comfortable ride of the Genesis in my typical real world driving and liked the overall package/features/price much better so went with the Genesis.

 

[Nikgen]

You set up a strawman with the stoplight racing comments and then knocked him down. Not a worthy effort.

The implication that anyone buying the V8 is immature is also without merit.

The fact that the V6 0-60 time is 6.5 sec and the V8 is 5.2 is very significant. No matter how you want to spin it, that difference is very noticeable. Not a matter of preference or "feel", those are the numbers.

Hyundai should make the AWD V8 avalable in the US. The fact they don't shouldn't cause anyone to say the V8 isn't worthwhile because I wanted the AWD and could only get it in the V6.

You said with respect to high RPM's when pulling away from a traffic light:

"Put another way, it's about 6.5 sec 0-60 and that's with the pedal on the floor."

You also talk about the V8 at 0-60 in 5.2 (which is also obviously pedal on the floor) ... and that is not stoplight racing? You're comparing "flooring" both cars - my point was that most of us don't drive that way - though I see plenty of teens/early 20's doing that in their Camaros, etc.,. And road noise and ride quality are "feel" and, to me, the v6 running on the 18 inch wheels has less road noise at speed and a slightly better ride than the V8 on the 19's - if that's a consideration for you.

You like to twist words it seems - I did not imply that "that anyone buying the V8 is immature". However, if you bought the Genesis V8 so you can do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds as you pull away from traffic lights, etc, then....
As I said in real world driving the difference between the cars is not that significant as most people are not constantly hammering "pedal to the metal" where the 1.3 second difference to 60 might be noticeable...

Finally, I never said that the V8 was not worthwhile but I would have still picked the V6 even if AWD was available on the V8. For me, the lower fuel economy (especially if you're hammering your traffic light pull aways) and premium fuel would not be worth the extra performance that I just won't use - I'd rather spend my $ elsewhere. But everyone has different needs - so enjoy your V8 and I'll enjoy my V6 (especially in the winter).

 

[jimb100]

You said with respect to high RPM's when pulling away from a traffic light:

"Put another way, it's about 6.5 sec 0-60 and that's with the pedal on the floor."

You also talk about the V8 at 0-60 in 5.2 (which is also obviously pedal on the floor) ... and that is not stoplight racing? You're comparing "flooring" both cars - my point was that most of us don't drive that way - though I see plenty of teens/early 20's doing that in their Camaros, etc.,. And road noise and ride quality are "feel" and, to me, the v6 running on the 18 inch wheels has less road noise at speed and a slightly better ride than the V8 on the 19's - if that's a consideration for you.

You like to twist words it seems - I did not imply that "that anyone buying the V8 is immature". However, if you bought the Genesis V8 so you can do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds as you pull away from traffic lights, etc, then....
As I said in real world driving the difference between the cars is not that significant as most people are not constantly hammering "pedal to the metal" where the 1.3 second difference to 60 might be noticeable...

Finally, I never said that the V8 was not worthwhile but I would have still picked the V6 even if AWD was available on the V8. For me, the lower fuel economy (especially if you're hammering your traffic light pull aways) and premium fuel would not be worth the extra performance that I just won't use - I'd rather spend my $ elsewhere. But everyone has different needs - so enjoy your V8 and I'll enjoy my V6 (especially in the winter).

First, 0-60 is a common performance measurement. It's done with the accelerator to the floor to get an equal measurement. It has nothing to do with racing.

Your feeling about what's comparable has no basis in objective fact. Actually I'm surprised you say there is little or no objective difference, unless you drove the V8 so slowly that there was, in fact, no difference.

Why would you think ride quality is compromised in the V8 due to the 19 inch wheels? It seems clear to me, having driven both, that the engineers, with help from Lotus, have tuned the ride appropriately for each car.

So we are back where we started. You drive slowly and the V6 is adequate for that. Others prefer power in reserve for passing and more spirited driving.

The discussion would seem to have turned on your assertion that no one really needs the V8. Personally, I think you need to be more tolerant.

 

[Nikgen]

First, 0-60 is a common performance measurement. It's done with the accelerator to the floor to get an equal measurement. It has nothing to do with racing.

Your feeling about what's comparable has no basis in objective fact. Actually I'm surprised you say there is little or no objective difference, unless you drove the V8 so slowly that there was, in fact, no difference.

Why would you think ride quality is compromised in the V8 due to the 19 inch wheels? It seems clear to me, having driven both, that the engineers, with help from Lotus, have tuned the ride appropriately for each car.

So we are back where we started. You drive slowly and the V6 is adequate for that. Others prefer power in reserve for passing and more spirited driving.

The discussion would seem to have turned on your assertion that no one really needs the V8. Personally, I think you need to be more tolerant.

You're the one who brought out the 0-60 stats after you stated the V6 needed to be floored for the 6.5 sec time. I was merely pointing out that the 5.0 also needs to be floored to get the 5.2 second time. Who said that had anything to do with racing? But if you felt that you had to floor the 3.8 from a stoplight, then that's what you're basically doing (and, yes, I get that the 5.0 would be quicker).

When I drove the 5.0, I didn't go around flooring it - I drove it briskly just like I drive the 3.8. In those normal, real-life driving conditions, I did not perceive a huge difference in how the cars responded. Was the 5.0 quicker? Sure - but not a huge difference if your not pushing the limits (i.e., the way most are able to drive on a daily basis).

To me, the lower profile tires on the 19" wheels resulted in a little more road noise at speed and road imperfections were "felt" a little more. As a result, I preferred the feel of the ride in the V6. Others have had similar comments. Is it night and day difference? No - it's minor, but noticeable.

And thanks for telling me I drive slow when I have given no insights into how fast or slow I drive. I've just said that I don't floor it from every stoplight - if that's how you define driving, then I guess I'm slow. In reality, I do drive slow in parking lots and on residential streets, but like to accelerate briskly (not floored) and typically drive at 75-80 mph on the highways (not 85+ like many idiots I see flying by). I also drive much faster on the track with my brother-in-law taking turns in his S4.

Please do show me where I asserted that no one needs a V8: All I've stated is that, in my opinion, in most typical,real world driving conditions, the difference is not that great. Look - I don't care how spirited you like to drive and have no issues with anyone who drives or wants the V8. I have issue with folks categorizing the V6 as underpowered and for people who like to drive slow - you couldn't be more wrong as most of the reviews on the car have shown.

 

[ferrethouse]

NOBODY who owns a V8 ever said anything about red light "racing". Pulling away from a stop quicky does not equal racing. I do it often when I am on a lonely street by myself and YES I enjoy it. That does not make me immature.

You were the one who brought road racing into this discussion and implied a personal insult by suggesting that we aren't mature enough to accept having a less powerful car.

 

[jimb100]

You're the one who brought out the 0-60 stats after you stated the V6 needed to be floored for the 6.5 sec time. I was merely pointing out that the 5.0 also needs to be floored to get the 5.2 second time. Who said that had anything to do with racing? But if you felt that you had to floor the 3.8 from a stoplight, then that's what you're basically doing (and, yes, I get that the 5.0 would be quicker).

When I drove the 5.0, I didn't go around flooring it - I drove it briskly just like I drive the 3.8. In those normal, real-life driving conditions, I did not perceive a huge difference in how the cars responded. Was the 5.0 quicker? Sure - but not a huge difference if your not pushing the limits (i.e., the way most are able to drive on a daily basis).

To me, the lower profile tires on the 19" wheels resulted in a little more road noise at speed and road imperfections were "felt" a little more. As a result, I preferred the feel of the ride in the V6. Others have had similar comments. Is it night and day difference? No - it's minor, but noticeable.

And thanks for telling me I drive slow when I have given no insights into how fast or slow I drive. I've just said that I don't floor it from every stoplight - if that's how you define driving, then I guess I'm slow. In reality, I do drive slow in parking lots and on residential streets, but like to accelerate briskly (not floored) and typically drive at 75-80 mph on the highways (not 85+ like many idiots I see flying by). I also drive much faster on the track with my brother-in-law taking turns in his S4.

Please do show me where I asserted that no one needs a V8: All I've stated is that, in my opinion, in most typical,real world driving conditions, the difference is not that great. Look - I don't care how spirited you like to drive and have no issues with anyone who drives or wants the V8. I have issue with folks categorizing the V6 as underpowered and for people who like to drive slow - you couldn't be more wrong as most of the reviews on the car have shown.

No one said anything about "flooring" the V6 at stop lights. I said that pulling away from stop lights resulted in the engine approaching 4K rpms and there was little pedal left. 0-60 in approx. 6.5 is a fact, although some reviews have it much slower. 0-60 in 5.2 seconds is MUCH quicker and quite noticeable, although perhaps not to you.

Once again, 0-60 in 6.5 seconds is what it is. I don't care what magazine reviewer said. My personal feeling is that it is not where it should be in a $50k car. I'm sorry if that offends you in some say. I also said that if you accelerate slowly, I'm sure its fine. And it appears you accelerate slowly.

You just seem more upset that anyone would think you drive slowly. The V6 can be driven quickly, it just requires more pedal and maintaining higher revs than in the V8. I think that, also, is factual. Facts like these shouldn't offend anyone. They are what they are.

But if you don't use the pedal and the trans in the V6 you are going to move at a leisurely pace.

I think this where you have the magazine reviewers comments confused. They habitually push test cars hard. While even pushing the V6 hard still only results in a slowish 0-60 time of 6.5, the car can be pushed enough to be entertaining. But you have to be willing to use the pedal and the trans to keep the revs up.

The V8, for all its weight, is still a quick car. Not quick like my LS3 Corvette, but 5.2 0-60 is fine. I haven't seen the quarter mile times but I'd guess at 13.5 with a trap speed of around 115.

Of course, these numbers aren't significant in every day driving, except that they give an indication of how much "push in the back" you'll feel when you hit the gas.

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[DFWGenny]

I'll admit it, I'm immature. I like to drive fast and I like to take corners fast. There, I said it, let the arrows fly. I'm the guy doing 85, but I'm not the guy weaving through traffic.

One of my favorites are entrance ramp flyovers with flat turns. I'm a sucker for those like Hobbes is a sucker for tuna sandwiches.

The one I like the best has a recommended speed of 40 mph, I took it at 60 with a '95 Sedan Deville and would come out doing 80 mph. The first time I took the turn in the Genesis, I entered it at 70 mph and felt my way through it like I did with the Caddy and when I looked at the speedometer, I was over 95! I don't do that any more, I'm not THAT immature

Funny story with that turn. I was following a guy in a C6 Corvette with my Caddy. He slows down and take the turn at 40 mph. When the turn straightens out, he punches it and does 100+ on the straight away. I just had to shake my head, that car could have carved that curve like a Thanksgiving turkey and he's acting macho because he can go fast in a straight line.

When you get down to it, the 5.0 and the 3.8 have the same top speed, it's limited by the transmission. I chose the car because I wanted AWD. I have been driving FWD cars for 30+ years and I know their quirks and I wasn't prepared to go full RWD again. After driving the 3.8 and I was given the choice between the 3.8 and the 5.0, I'd choose the 3.8 again. The 3.8 has a wonderful "rooty" exhaust note, I don't know if the 5.0 has that or not. I have noticed that the transmission keeps the engine in its sweet spot in sport mode. That makes up for a lot of sins, if you can call 311 bhp a sin.

I'm not going to throw rocks at the 5.0, but for me the 3.8 filled the bill.

 

[chronic]

No one is arguing that the V8 is a little quicker - but you clearly have not spent time in the V6 if you think it labors as it doesn't labor at all. What some seem to need all this reserve of power for is beyond me - but whatever floats your boat, I guess. However, to suggest that the V6 is underpowered is ridiculous.

What the V8 offers is a effortless ride.

Like one review put it as "frictionless propulsion"

You just cannot get the full flagship experience with the V6

 

[DFWGenny]

What the V8 offers is a effortless ride.

Like one review put it as "frictionless propulsion"

You just cannot get the full flagship experience with the V6

If you want a boat, get the Equus.

 

[jimb100]

If you want a boat, get the Equus.

Having driven both, I don't think the V8 Genesis is any more "floaty" than the V6, especially in sport mode.

As mentioned, the V8 has all that low end torque which makes passing effortless, accelerating up on ramps effortless and gives the ability to steer with the gas pedal without drama.

If you are comfortable keeping the V6 in the upper part of the rev range its a very capable performer. Its not as fast as the V8 and never will be.

Its a shame that Hyundai chose to not offer the all wheel drive in the US with the V8 for those who live where it snows. I must agree that the top tier experience with the Genesis requires the V8. Yes, the V6 is "good enough" but for a couple bucks more on a car that's already a bargain, you can exceed "good enough".

 

[DFWGenny]

Having driven both, I don't think the V8 Genesis is any more "floaty" than the V6, especially in sport mode.

As mentioned, the V8 has all that low end torque which makes passing effortless, accelerating up on ramps effortless and gives the ability to steer with the gas pedal without drama.

If you are comfortable keeping the V6 in the upper part of the rev range its a very capable performer. Its not as fast as the V8 and never will be.

Its a shame that Hyundai chose to not offer the all wheel drive in the US with the V8 for those who live where it snows. I must agree that the top tier experience with the Genesis requires the V8. Yes, the V6 is "good enough" but for a couple bucks more on a car that's already a bargain, you can exceed "good enough".

I never meant to imply that the 5.0 was a boat. Quite the opposite:

1. The Equus it the top of the line (or Flagship)
2. The ride of the Equus is very soft

Double joke.

 

[jimb100]

I never meant to imply that the 5.0 was a boat. Quite the opposite:

1. The Equus it the top of the line (or Flagship)
2. The ride of the Equus is very soft

Double joke.

Sorry, I didn't understand your intent.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

Sure, why not!

I'm jealous. That white is stunning.

 

[jonjon72]

I'm jealous. That white is stunning.

Thank you. I would say the same thing about Black 2015 Genesis Sedans

 

[laynet]

3.8 RWD Ultimate in Black replacing 06 Azera Limited.

 

[Roikins]

Re: Engine Choice: did you (or will you) buy a V6 or V8 2015 Genesis This Year?

Hello, I'm glad to be here just bought yesterday the 3.8 RWD with all available packages. Wanted ALW ,because I used to drive FWD,I had 2012 Sonata 2.0 T Limited,but dealer convinced me that I don't need it in here where I live,which is in Miami. So I saved 2,500 $ ,and was told that RWD is a bit lighter and pick up speed a bit faster.
I got it white with dark interior. Tinted the windows the same day,and it looks awesome with that dark roof and dark windows. The driving is pure pleasure))
I already ordered the Genesis label to attach it to the trunk and also LED fog lights,which I think should be already included in package.
Also ordered original front window sunshade and trunk cargo organizer.
But other than that the car is just awesome,I love it so much!!)
Would like to hear some feedback how is the AWD driving ? And also if anyone already installed the fog lights on 3.8 model?
Thanks everyone and as I wrote I am glad to be a part of Genesis owners community)