Genesis G70 Reviews

[JayceM]

Hahahaha. I meant “happy” btw...in case that got lost in the nonsense

Lol yeah I knew what you meant. Man I'm so ready for this car to come out or to at least find pricing. It's sad how often I hit refresh on this forum.

 

[YEH]

So basically everything before the GV80 and facelifted G80 was designed by Hyundai related engineers, and everything with those onward was designed with the influence of the new European designers. Even if it's more conventional, I prefer the current G80 Sport and G70 exterior design language. I just don't like the line headlights the Essentia and GV80 have, in my opinion.

Partially correct. The G70 was designed by ex-M Division peep (chassis, etc) and interior by ex Bugatti peep. Few other European folks too...I think.

The G70 is the first car as a Genesis brand. G80 and G90 are carried over (new names and some design changes, etc).

Really depends on how you see it, which differs based on market.

If I'm not mistaken, the G90 was never sold at Hyundai dealerships in Canada - as Genesis Canada had opted for the direct from manufacturer distribution model.

And while the G70 never had a predecessor sold at a Hyundai dealership here in the US, it (for the time-being) will be sold at those Hyundai dealerships which have acquired a Genesis franchise until the new Genesis stores are built.

The models subsequent to the G70 (which will be getting the Essentia/GV80) design language are the first Genesis models to have been designed/developed while Genesis was a separate brand; some of the G70's development was done prior to the Genesis spin-off.

Btw, nice review Beef!

 

[Beefer]

Road & Track...quick review...

Note that it's the 3.3T...but with the 10 spoke rims. It's the RWD version.

 

[Tonester]

Road & Track...quick review...

Note that it's the 3.3T...but with the 10 spoke rims. It's the RWD version.

This is the first USA 3.3T review I've seen with the 10 spoke rims, glad you found it! This proves that at least the Prestige will get these beautiful wheels. Alex on Autos did a review of a 'top spec' non-sport 3.3T and it had the standard 20 spoke rims. This had me concerned, but after some reading I had to conclude that his car was equipped this way due to the way Genesis equipped the track cars that were tested last month. Must have been a shortage on these wheels at that time. Seems like I also read that ALL of the 3.3T non-sport cars would get the same wheels. So we'll see what the Advanced and Elite 3.3T trims get, but likely the same as this one. Good find Beefer!

 

[Ed Okin]

Road & Track...quick review...

Note that it's the 3.3T...but with the 10 spoke rims. It's the RWD version.

The rear looks so much cleaner without that rectangular HTRAC badge. If I don’t like the stictched sport seats live and in person, I think this Presitge 3.3 in White with Black (non-stitched) quilted Nappa may be the one.

 

[Ed Okin]

This is the first USA 3.3T review I've seen with the 10 spoke rims, glad you found it! This proves that at least the Prestige will get these beautiful wheels. Alex on Autos did a review of a 'top spec' non-sport 3.3T and it had the standard 20 spoke rims. This had me concerned, but after some reading I had to conclude that his car was equipped this way due to the way Genesis equipped the track cars that were tested last month. Must have been a shortage on these wheels at that time. Seems like I also read that ALL of the 3.3T non-sport cars would get the same wheels. So we'll see what the Advanced and Elite 3.3T trims get, but likely the same as this one. Good find Beefer!

I agree that the 10 spoke rims are the best. Am I correct that the 20’s go on the 18” all season and the 10 and 5 rims are the 19”?

 

[Tonester]

I agree that the 10 spoke rims are the best. Am I correct that the 20’s go on the 18” all season and the 10 and 5 rims are the 19”?

Yes, I believe you are correct. And if that is true, that means all 3.3T non-sport trims will get this 19" 10-spoke wheel since the released trim descriptions say all 3.3T trims get 19" wheels.

 

[canucklehead604]

I agree that the 10 spoke rims are the best. Am I correct that the 20’s go on the 18” all season and the 10 and 5 rims are the 19”?

^ yes

 

[devellis]

Not doing well in the home market, apparently. And, in Korea at least, the G70 will make some changes mid-year.

http://www.koreaittimes.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=85580

 

[Tonester]

Not doing well in the home market, apparently. And, in Korea at least, the G70 will make some changes mid-year.

Hyundai Motor’s Premium brand ‘Genesis’ suffers from sluggish sales

Interesting and surprising that they are not doing better than this. Brands do matter and if they can't improve on these numbers soon, their fate may be in question. But we're still in the early stages, so one would think they'd have a couple years to get it right.

I wonder what kind of changes they'll make to the Korean 2019 G70 and when they'd announce? I assume they meant 2019 model mid-year changes (i.e. March 2019)? This could be our sneak peek as to what may come to the US and other regions for the 2020 G70; assuming the US 2019 gets out the door!

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[JayceM]

Interesting and surprising that they are not doing better than this. Brands do matter and if they can't improve on these numbers soon, their fate may be in question. But we're still in the early stages, so one would think they'd have a couple years to get it right.

I wonder what kind of changes they'll make to the Korean 2019 G70 and when they'd announce? I assume they meant 2019 model mid-year changes (i.e. March 2019)? This could be our sneak peek as to what may come to the US and other regions for the 2020 G70; assuming the US 2019 gets out the door!

I'm actually not surprised, at this point. If they're running things at all how they're running them in the US, then it makes sense that they would have trouble.

 

[YEH]

Not doing well in the home market, apparently. And, in Korea at least, the G70 will make some changes mid-year.

Hyundai Motor’s Premium brand ‘Genesis’ suffers from sluggish sales

This is a poorly written and researched article.

Genesis Korea June Sales

As seen in the post about 1st half year sales in Korea, Genesis (and esp. Genesis + Kia lux) sales have done pretty well in comparison to the Germans, despite having a more limited lineup and powertrains.

The G80, despite its age, has been outselling the E Class and 5er (5er sales will tank for the east of the year as BMW struggles to deal w/ the fire issue), and the EQ900 has outsold the S Class and 7 Series.

As noted, EQ900 sales have slipped, but that's primarily due to the new K9 selling well.

Genesis probably would like to see the G70 do better (or not drop too far from the 1k/month it had been doing), but compact lux sedans don't sell nearly as well as the mid-size segment.

The fact the G80 is still selling relatively well despite it nearing the end of its life-cycle is a good thing and the when the next gen model launches, should see a spike in sales.

Right now, the EQ900 is overly affected by K9 sales, but when the facelifted model launches, should be able to claw back some marketshare.

The Germans have been really aggressive in Korea (it's one of their most profitable markets) when it comes to pricing lately, hoping to further increase market-share (BMW's fire issue should put a damper on things for now).

What Genesis needs is more fuel efficient powerplants to better compete against the Germans (and even Lexus - hybrid Lexus models have been gaining traction).

The upcoming new 2.5L turbo should help things; even more so if it is tied to a hybrid system (even if just a 48V mild hybrid).

In Japan (which has 3x the pop. size), none of the IS, GS or LS hits 500/month in sales.

In fact, the only Lexus models that hit the 500 sales mark are the NX and CT (and not always).

Poor RWD Lexus sales are alleviated by sales of the Toyota Crown series (which sells a lot better); which is why Toyota recently launched the new Crown and why the GS may be seeing the last of its days.

 

[devellis]

This is a poorly written and researched article.

Genesis Korea June Sales

As seen in the post about 1st half year sales in Korea, Genesis (and esp. Genesis + Kia lux) sales have done pretty well in comparison to the Germans, despite having a more limited lineup and powertrains.

The G80, despite its age, has been outselling the E Class and 5er (5er sales will tank for the east of the year as BMW struggles to deal w/ the fire issue), and the EQ900 has outsold the S Class and 7 Series.

As noted, EQ900 sales have slipped, but that's primarily due to the new K9 selling well.

Genesis probably would like to see the G70 do better (or not drop too far from the 1k/month it had been doing), but compact lux sedans don't sell nearly as well as the mid-size segment.

The fact the G80 is still selling relatively well despite it nearing the end of its life-cycle is a good thing and the when the next gen model launches, should see a spike in sales.

Right now, the EQ900 is overly affected by K9 sales, but when the facelifted model launches, should be able to claw back some marketshare.

The Germans have been really aggressive in Korea (it's one of their most profitable markets) when it comes to pricing lately, hoping to further increase market-share (BMW's fire issue should put a damper on things for now).

What Genesis needs is more fuel efficient powerplants to better compete against the Germans (and even Lexus - hybrid Lexus models have been gaining traction).

The upcoming new 2.5L turbo should help things; even more so if it is tied to a hybrid system (even if just a 48V mild hybrid).

In Japan (which has 3x the pop. size), none of the IS, GS or LS hits 500/month in sales.

In fact, the only Lexus models that hit the 500 sales mark are the NX and CT (and not always).

Poor RWD Lexus sales are alleviated by sales of the Toyota Crown series (which sells a lot better); which is why Toyota recently launched the new Crown and why the GS may be seeing the last of its days.

Good points, but it's a matter of perspective. Part of the reason sales are slow is that the segment as a whole is slow. The fact that other makers are underselling the G80/90 does tell us something. It's good news for Genesis in one sense, to be sure. They're outperforming the competition. But the fact that all the cars they offer are in a segment that is sagging isn't such good news. Their year-to-year sales are off. Sure, part of this is due to the models aging a bit. But it's still not a good thing. If new versions of existing models bring a surge in sales, that will be a good thing, but that's in the future. And the sales for G70 are below their own projections. So it's hard to see the good news in that.

Overall, I'd say it's a mixed bag at best with something to cling to whether you choose to see the news as good or bad for Genesis in its home market.

 

[Ed Okin]

Not doing well in the home market, apparently. And, in Korea at least, the G70 will make some changes mid-year.

Hyundai Motor’s Premium brand ‘Genesis’ suffers from sluggish sales

Excellent observations by all posting!

The article is apparently completely ignorant of the US dealer issues and the failure of Genesis USA to bring to sale a car that has, so far as I’ve seen, the best reviews a brand new sedan has ever been given.

Where are these fleet sales? Who is buying fleets of G90 and G80?

 

[Ed Okin]

How about a review, albeit a pretty informal one by the friend of a guy taking a test drive?

It’s a 3.3T Sport and it looks like Mallorca Blue, although it’s a cloudy and bit rainy so the blue comes across less bright than the MBs I’ve seen in other videos and photos.

The video is about 15 minutes and mostly consists of the video poster, his friend the driver and the guy with one of the best jobs ever, driving and riding in Genesis cars all day long.

A couple of observations: the driving is almost all in the suburbs; despite the enhanced interior engine sound turned all the way up, it doesn’t look like he drives the car at highway speed.

The best part is hearing that sound...yes, it’s enhanced, but I thought I read somewhere that it is real recorded G70 engine sounds, but I’m happy to be corrected on that or anything else I might get wrong.

Enjoy!

 

[steelers84]

How about a review, albeit a pretty informal one by the friend of a guy taking a test drive?

It’s a 3.3T Sport and it looks like Mallorca Blue, although it’s a cloudy and bit rainy so the blue comes across less bright than the MBs I’ve seen in other videos and photos.

The video is about 15 minutes and mostly consists of the video poster, his friend the driver and the guy with one of the best jobs ever, driving and riding in Genesis cars all day long.

A couple of observations: the driving is almost all in the suburbs; despite the enhanced interior engine sound turned all the way up, it doesn’t look like he drives the car at highway speed.

The best part is hearing that sound...yes, it’s enhanced, but I thought I read somewhere that it is real recorded G70 engine sounds, but I’m happy to be corrected on that or anything else I might get wrong.

Enjoy!

You think that's Mallorca Blue? It looks like a lighter, almost more aqua blue, and I think it looks absolutely amazing. I'd be surprised if it was Mallorca Blue, but I guess it's always possible that it's just the cloudy day as you said.

 

[devellis]

You think that's Mallorca Blue? It looks like a lighter, almost more aqua blue, and I think it looks absolutely amazing. I'd be surprised if it was Mallorca Blue, but I guess it's always possible that it's just the cloudy day as you said.

Probably just the camera. Look at the brake calipers. Their color looks a bit more washed out than ow they usually appear. Very easy for the color balance to be thrown off by something.

 

[Gianttama]

Probably just the camera. Look at the brake calipers. Their color looks a bit more washed out than ow they usually appear. Very easy for the color balance to be thrown off by something.

Hopefully it was just the camera or whatever filter he had on. When I first saw the video I was like I want that color, I have never see my car (mal blue) looking anywhere close to that under any lighting condition. I actually paused the video to see if it was a Canadian plate, thinking maybe it was a different market where the aqua-ish blue is available.

 

[PD705]

Definitely just colour balance. There's no other blue offered anywhere in the world on G70 - it's Mallorca (bright) or Adriatic (dark). Note that these colours are called different things in the home market and elsewhere outside North America, but the colour codes themselves don't vary. All cars globally come from the same plant.

 

[YEH]

Good points, but it's a matter of perspective. Part of the reason sales are slow is that the segment as a whole is slow.

The midsize lux sedan segment isn't slow in Korea; it's by far the largest segment.

The fact that the G80 (despite its age) is only down 6.9% compared to last year is pretty impressive.

EQ900 sales are down in large part due to the sales of the new K900 doing so well.

As for the US, yes - lux sedan sales are down, but the article totally ignores that Genesis sales are down as much as they are b/c of the delay in launching the '19MY and the halt of shipments of the '18 back in spring.

But the fact that all the cars they offer are in a segment that is sagging isn't such good news. Their year-to-year sales are off. Sure, part of this is due to the models aging a bit. But it's still not a good thing. If new versions of existing models bring a surge in sales, that will be a good thing, but that's in the future. And the sales for G70 are below their own projections. So it's hard to see the good news in that.

Genesis may have over-estimated the market for smaller lux sedans in Korea; but still, the G70 is doing about on par what the German competition is doing in that segment.

Where the Germans have the edge is more variety in the powertrain dept., in particular, electrification.

Not sure what you mean by segment that is sagging - as lux CUVs have yet to make major headway in the Korean market.

K900 sales are way, way up and have more than made up for the decline in G90 sales.

At minimum, the G70 and G80 need a hybrid variant pronto; the new 2.5T wouldn't hurt either.