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The OFFICIAL Air Suspension Thread

I have the 2015 Genesis and have airforce suspension management and all. It basically ****ing sucks and so does their customer service. Front driver bag busted on me and they won't honor their warranty. Basically if you fully lay the car out the upper wishbone on the suspension rubs on the shock. Front airing it up and out on the rack we never saw this and it looked like it had clearance. In order for it to work you will need to grind the upper wishbone down some to prevent this. They want to charge me 250 for another bag which I said **** no it should be replaced by warranty since its not a direct bolt on kit. If you guys are looking at airforce stay away. Go somewhere else. I'll post pictures soon. There management also won't level the front. We moved the sensors to so many positions and it still won't register on the remote.
 
OK maybe the sedan guys can help me out because my fellow coupe owners were no help. I have a 15 gen coupe (push start auto headlights) I'm done with my first stage of plumbing and I need to get this thing on the groupe for wheel test fits...I cant figure out where to tap power for my set up. I have accuair e-level management I need to tap 12v ignition power and 12v headlight. I'm pretty sure I can tap ignition from the ECU fuse under the hood but for matters of cleanliness (and a little laziness) I'd really like to tap something on the drivers side of the car like maybe that perfectly located drivers side fuse box!! And I have not the slightest clue where to tap for 12V headlights :-/ any help will be greatly appreciated...thanks in advanced
 
Re: Tank, Compressors, Hardlines and Fittings

After what felt like a couple months of researching existing installs and setups I decided to go with the Accuair 5-Gallon tank, Dual 400cc VIAIR compressors and Accuair eXo Mounting System. The eXo System consists of three split tank mounting rings, two compressor mounting brackets and an ECU/Manifold mounting bracket. Bottom section of the rings are bolted to the new trunk floor, tank is set in place then the other half of rings bolt together. Since the trunk floor has to sit flush the hole locations for mounting the tank rings were counterbored.

Hardlines are 3/8” Type K Copper Tubing, wall thickness is 0.035”and were ordered in straight lengths that are hardened. Used a Parker 3/8” tubing bender and annealed each section of tubing that needed to be bent using a BernzOmatic TS8000 and a bucket of water. This was my first hardline setup and it took a long time making sure all the bends were correct and mirrored for the opposite side. Have the SMC water traps after the compressors but have since learned it is better to have them prior to the VU4 manifold. I may rebend the compressor to tank lines and install the water traps prior to the VU4 manifold but have not made up my mind on this yet.

Replaced the VIAIR check valves with SMC check valves and installed the directly to the compressors. All fittings have been changed to 316 Stainless Steel, purchased from http://www.stainlesssteelfittings.com/. The PTC (Push to Connect) fittings are pressed into the VU4 manifold and cannot be changed, come to find out they do offer a NPT version of this manifold but has to be specified when placing an order. There is no issue using the tubing with these PTC connections. All other hardline connections use a double ferrule compression fitting. Opting for a clean looking install I elected to run my hardlines to bulkhead fittings keeping all pressure sensors, DOT air lines and mufflers underneath.

If I went with 1/2" MDF I would not have needed to use a step bit to allow enough male threads to be exposed on the top side of the trunk floor. By dumb luck the OD of the hole on the bottom side is the same width from point to point of the male and female NPT side of the bulkhead fittings. ECU connectors have to be fed from underneath which required a rectangular opening to be cut directly below the ECU. A slot was cut for the 90° drain fitting located on the bottom of the tank and holes were drilled for the compressor power wires as well.

Some kind of pressed carpet/felt material was purchased to go on top of the wooden trunk floor and is very similar to the OEM trunk carpet material. It leaves a clean edge when cut with a blade and does not fray. Used hollow punches to cut clearance holes for the bulkhead fittings and cut X’s for the ECU connectors, drain and power wires. Setup has been test fit with carpet in the trunk but without hardlines and looks exactly how I thought it would. Should have the setup test fit with all hardlines early next week and can’t wait to see how it will look with the hardlines polished. Wrapping up my wiring this weekend and then on to installing the e-level sensors and bags.

Cutouts for harness connectors, tank drain and motor wires were not cut/drilled when these pictures below were taken. Not sure what nickname to give her but it kind of looks like a spider!?:

Wiring to follow...

Nice!
 
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Re: Tank, Compressors, Hardlines and Fittings

OK maybe the sedan guys can help me out because my fellow coupe owners were no help. I have a 15 gen coupe (push start auto headlights) I'm done with my first stage of plumbing and I need to get this thing on the groupe for wheel test fits...I cant figure out where to tap power for my set up. I have accuair e-level management I need to tap 12v ignition power and 12v headlight. I'm pretty sure I can tap ignition from the ECU fuse under the hood but for matters of cleanliness (and a little laziness) I'd really like to tap something on the drivers side of the car like maybe that perfectly located drivers side fuse box!! And I have not the slightest clue where to tap for 12V headlights :-/ any help will be greatly appreciated...thanks in advanced

I tapped into the connector in the center dash for the 12V ignition. IIRC It is the ignition power wire for the 12V power outlet. Illumination came from the rear tail light. You'll probably never see this since the reply is over 2 months old.


Thanks.
 
I'm beginning the install of my air system. I'd love to hear your opinions and any tips/tricks you have.

Items being installed:
D2 Air Suspension (bolt on kit)
Air Lift 3h Management
(2)Specialty Suspension 3ga Seamless Tanks
Air Zenith OB2 Compressor (in white!)

I'm installing everything in the spare tire well so that I can still have a fully functioning trunk. I have dreams of passing the air lines and height sensor wiring through the port toward the front of the well(the one the battery wiring passes through). I'm wondering if anyone's had any luck using the mounting locations for the stock height sensors. Also does removing/unplugging these sensors throw a CEL?

I want to some pics as I go along but I'm too dumb to figure out how. :/

Thanks all!!!
 
Glad to see another genesis is being put on air. What year is yours? As far as the plumbing out of the trunk is concerned, I used the 1.5" hole that is plugged with a grommet to run my lines out. Cut out the center of the plug/grommet so when reinstalled it would protect my lines, otherwise they could potentially rub on the sharp metal edge of the cutout. Also ran techflex braided sleeves to protect the lines all the way up to the bags.

In an earlier post you can see where I mounted my height sensors. Had to make brackets for the front and rear as well ad tap into the lower control arm.

You can attach pictures to each post or use an image hosting service like photobucket, shuterfly, etc. to embed /IMG links.

If you have any questions let me know I'll be glad to help.
 
I did forget to add my year info :/

Mine is a 2014 Rspec Sedan. Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go back and read through the whole thread again and check out your brackets. Did your car have the stock height sensors?
 
My car did not have stock height sensors.
 
Here are some pics of my build so far.

Making a template out of cardboard for the base in the spare tire well.


Cut out in wood.


Here's the new MDF floor with hinged "wings". This will eventually have a plexi viewing window with a plug.


"Wings" folded in.


This is probably the layout I'm going to go with. I think I would build walls to hide the compressor and the battery and also give me room to mount the relays and fuses.
 
nvm i figured it out. =D
 
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So here's the final layout. It just made more sense this way and I was able to lower the mounting board into the trunk a bit more for extra clearance.



Clearance to the compressor fan



Making the new layout permanent.



Built all my AN lines to connect everything.



Painted the mounting board.



Everything remounted and checking fitment in the car with the lines connected. I also added an air gauge.



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Installing the Airlift harness. I ran the height sensor harnesses through the battery cable grommet, while the turn on and USB ran through the back seat.





I drilled holes in the back of the center console drawer to pass the USB through.



Then I made a cardboard template to fit the shape of the drawer opening.



Here's a test fit of the Airlift controller in the drawer.



Here's the drawer mounted back into the center console.



Night shot.

 
Car in the air, ready to install air struts and shocks.



Drilling holes for bulkhead fittings.





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Sound deadening and bulkhead fittings installed.



More deadening.



Bulkhead view from under the car.



Wiring being cleaned up and fuse holder/relays being installed.



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More deadening added, compressor/tanks installed, and nylon lines added from manifold to bulkhead fittings.



Front height sensors installed.





Rivnut installed into rear control arm.



Rear height sensor installed.



Rear sensor bracket and standoffs.

 
6an fittings welded to front bags instead of 1/8"compression fittings.





Rear bags mounted.

 
Quality stuff Genegofast. I like the placement of the air lift controller in the drawer. I would have lowed to have used that area but I don't have the tech package, cd player is there instead. Interesting that they moved the 1.25" grommet that is in the spare tire well. Yours is on the floor but mine is where you added the bulkhead fittings. Great idea btw.

Did you change the rear fittings to AN as well?
 
Thanks! I didn't do the rear because I didn't think the added durability was necessary back there. I may end up doing it eventually because I'm OCD though. I'm happy I went with the bulkheads over the grommet anyway because it gives me the ability to remove my whole setup from the trunk more easily and it looks super clean. It is weird that they moved it though.

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My first drawing of what I wanted my trunk to look like. On cardboard with a sharpie of course.



Drawn to scale with measurements (on cardboard again)



It helps to have a friend with a CNC router! Cutting a new floor out of 3/4" solid ply birch.



Took only 2min to cut out the floor. (Video)



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Test fit after the cut.



Added the wings back on and reversed the hinges so the part that you see is completely flush.



Test fit with the plexi and the logo.



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Clearance from floor to tanks. Also a shot of the inverted hinges.







Wired up a button for lighting under the plexi.



In action. Just a test. (Video)



Led tape installed.



Everything bedlined, including the foam block towards the front of the car.



 
Those of you with a 1gen & running airforce bags, what does your max height look like? I need a shit ton of clearance for my front lip which is about 4 inches in height. So i need at least 2 inches under that so i dont break it off driving on the horrible roads we have here. im looking for a solution because the coilovers i have wont allow me to run this lip. so air bags is the only option for my '13 genesis.
 
I'm running the d2 bags which are almost identical in every way to the air force bags. It's all in how you set them up. If you elongate the shock body up front and air it all the way up you could have tons of clearence but you're going to limit how low you'll be when you air out. You're also going to have to make a ride comfort compromise most likely.

The correct way is to find the ideal "spring rate" for your setup by driving around with the front shock body set too high and air up and down until the car handles the way you want. You then dial the shock body in at that air pressure to achieve the look you want for your "driving" preset. From there you can air up and down to see what you're going to get. The rear in these cars isn't going to have that type of adjustment because of the bag and shock being separated.

Just for reference my drive around settings are 86-90 psi in the front and 65-70 in the rear. This both looks great and rides better than stock. I'll post a vid of my car maxed out ride height wise. I can clear any speed bump or shitty driveway I need to.

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Air'd all the way up to all the way down. (Video)



All lit up.



On the ground!











 
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