Turning ESC off ...for real...With Video Proof!!

[JDC]

um. does anyone know how i can get the wires through the firewall? if i cant, i just thought of a good idea. have a really short wire and just keep the switch under the hood or even still in the fuse box

I'll post up a photo of a location, tomorrow, which I used to pop a hole through the firewall. Safe with nothing behind (interior side) so popping the hole is about a no-brainer. I used this place to run my Passport wires through, then sealed with a 1" gromet and silicone. Seems to work well, out of the way, not visible once you replace the wiper shroud, etc.

To the creators of this mod, do you think you could figure a way so that on car startup the ECS is off, method 2, automatically? Then using a setup/buttons, etc to need to turn it on?

Anyone have videos of this ECS modification with the tires smoking from a standing start?

 

[maxmar04]

Can anyone tell me what the ESC off button does if not used in conjunction with the fuse pull?

Also I tried this fuse pull/esc/fuse replace on my 2010 and in addition to the ESC light being on the EPB light was also illuminated. I tried to spin the tires and nothing happened.
What is EPB light for?

if you just press the ESC off button it only delays the traction control very slightly. without the fuse, it turns it off completely.

 

[JDC]

Here is a set of photos showing where I entered the firewall from the engine side to put the Passport cabling through, or for any wiring for that matter. I also checked the drivers side, but for my needs the passanger side seemed easiest/cleanest for placement of the Passport ECU near the bottom of the glovebox.

As you look at the closeup photo it looks like the wires enter the firewall in the photo. Actually where you see the cable enter is an 'outside'/engine side metal facing plate, which already had an OEM hole, so you can use that existing hole as a simple guide. Right behind that face plate, about 1-2 inches back, is the firewall. I used a cone drill bit to get past the front face plate and drilled a 1" hole into the firewall, used a gromet for the inner hole, and sealed with silicone for added water tight security.

On the interior side of the fireall hole there were no wires/obstructions to hit when drilling. There is the sound proofing/heat pad. The hole will be on the higher side, back and behind, and a bit above the glove box. Worked perfectly for placement of the Passport ECU in the plastic underlining shroud, below the glovebox. It only takes a minute to remove the glove box.

 

[Catharpin]

if you just press the ESC off button it only delays the traction control very slightly. without the fuse, it turns it off completely.

So ESC off only slightly retards TC? No effect on the stability control functions?
I understand fuse removes everything.
Has anyone else tried this on a 2010? I had no luck when I tried it.

 

[Viking]

Anyone else gone to the step of wiring through the firewall? I really want to do this but would like a switch (with a finished look) on the interior..

 

[vega]

Why not put the switch next to the console on the underside, out of sight. It would not be much different than reaching for the radio controls.

 

[daviderle]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

Well done my man, you are officialy the "King of ESC"...

Sorry for the late reply as I have not been around the forum for few months due to travel and just catching up...

Anyone who is interested in using alternatives to hardwiring switches and relays one can try to play with this DC powered device so one can use the garage door opener buttons;

http://www.allsecurityequipment.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Multicode-1099-50

WOW,

I'm surprised at how little attention this is getting compared to the original thread about removing the ESC fuse to let her rip.
I thought everyone would want to try this...well, anyways here goes...

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Disclaimer, * WARNING * this procedure is not recommended or endorse by either Hyundai or the owners of this site, I have no responsibility whatsoever on the outcome of these tests, please DO NOT TOUCH your vehicle as doing so may cause any number malfunctions and you alone will hold full responsibility of your actions.

I am not associated with Hyundai in any way and have no prior knowledge of inter working of any specific part of the Genesis electronics. Personally, I am purely looking into the problem as engineering enthusiast who wishes to understand how things work.
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Very easy.
1. Start the car
2. Pull the 10a ESC fuse
3. Press the ESC button inside the car
4. Put the fuse back in
5. DONE...Please be careful...your monster is unleashed

As I said...The cruise control does not work anymore
You CANNOT engage ESC till you restart the car.

I apologize for those who PM'd me for not getting back. I wrote this because no came back to me and I copied what PINGGOLF put in his thread about pulling the fuse.

Good luck and let me know if this works for you.

Regards,

 

[sambeaux]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

Well done my man, you are officialy the "King of ESC"...

Sorry for the late reply as I have not been around the forum for few months due to travel and just catching up...

Anyone who is interested in using alternatives to hardwiring switches and relays one can try to play with this DC powered device so one can use the garage door opener buttons;

http://www.allsecurityequipment.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Multicode-1099-50

I would love to do this mod! please forgive my ignorance but how would this work? I'm a little slow to begin with because I'm not sure how this switch is working i nthe firstplace. Is the switch pinggolf has routed into his car t obe pressed to break the connection and act as if the fuse was out? I really want to do this mod but need a little guidance. I am absolutely open to using this wireless device infact I would prefer it, could you explain how I would set this up?

 

[slvslv]

Thanks to everyone who posted their experience with this mod. I'm really glad someone figured it out. Now my Genesis SCREAMS when I want it to. I'm elated. And I wanted to share my experience:

I picked up a "Mini Add-A-Circuit" from O'Reilly's to put in place of the 10 amp fuse in the engine bay fuse box. I cut off the extra wire, found some small blade connectors that fit in place of the fuse, and wired it up. I also applied some epoxy to keep the blade connectors from coming loose.

Then I notched the fuse box with a small file so I could run the new wires out of the box. Make the notch only big enough for the wires to fit in the groove tightly, thus maintaining a waterproof environment.

The hardest part is running the wires in to the cabin. I found if you remove the plastic escutcheon that butts up against the windshield you will find a place where you can run the wires through without any drilling or cutting. Removing the plastic escutcheon requires removing approximately 8 push-pin rivets. Plus one nut that secures a black plastic cover on the driver's side that partially obstructs removal of the escutcheon. You will also have to remove both windshield wiper arms, too. They each have a rubber cover at the base that pops off exposing a nut that must be removed. Even with the nuts off, the wipers may be difficult to remove. Carefully rock them back and forth until they come loose. Once the wiper arms are removed, the escutcheon comes right off.

Next you'll want to remove your glovebox. It's not that difficult but takes some patience. Open the glovebox. Find the dampener arm on the left side and disengage it from the box by using your finger to push it out towards the dash. Now remove the left and right plastic/rubber limiters that keeps the box from falling all the way to the floor. They are a bit tricky to remove but if you can get your fingers in there and pull forward as you push inward towards the box, they should just come out at a 90 degree angle. With those removed, the box will open all the way to the floor. Remove the five phillips screws and one nut. Grasp the box from the inside and pull forward and slightly down to release the five clips still holding it in to the dash. Once loose, disconnect the wire connectors to the trunk on/off switch, light, and light switch. Now the glovebox can be set aside.

(This is a good time to replace your cabin air filter, too. It's right behind the rectangular cover that sits behind the glovebox. Just pull the cover and you'll see the filter in there.)

Now back to the engine bay. Behind the fuse box and firewall you'll see a black curved plastic cover that bridges the engine bay and car cabin. (I think it's part of the A/C system.) If you press on it near the top it will move slightly. I was able to run my wires in the small space at the top while pushing on the curved plastic cover. Feed the wires through with something rigid like a coat hanger.

Return to the glovebox opening and look up near the top and you should see your wires poking though. Pull them through and route to wherever you want to mount your switch. I ran mine down behind the glovebox and over to the driver's side in the small area behind the center console. I found an ideal location for mounting a rocker switch at the end of the plastic trim piece at the back of the center console near the accelerator. I drilled a 1/2" hole, mounted the switch, connected my wires (with an inline 10 amp fuse) and gave it a test. Works like a champ!

Now reassemble everything in reverse order. You can let your wires be "clamped down" by the escutcheon plate upon reassembly. There isn't enough pressure to damage them. That's it!

Again, thanks to everyone for the help and advice on this mod. And if I can be of any further help, don't hesitate to ask!

Brent

 

[j-georges]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

I have a 2012 Sedan 5.0 R-spec and my fuse block is totally different.
Has anyone looked at theirs yet and found how to kill the ESC function ?
Thanks

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[timc1475]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

Here we go!

GCTLG-----PROPS TO YOU MAN FOR AN AWESOME JOB! I dont want to steal any of your thunder...its all YOU!

My findings:

I did not have the opportunity to try it out last night...as I kinda forgot. EEEK!

So I got to work this morning and opened up the thread again to read some additional comments.

Well, I couldnt stand it...so at lunch I crunk the car, popped the hood, removed the ESP fuse, hit the ESC button and reinstalled the fuse. I then shut the hood and got in the car.

Initially, I was kinda skeptical until I saw the ESC light continuously lit. Then I thought...well, he may have just cracked the code!

I lowered the windows and took off making sure I didnt spin while inside the compound here at work. I made it to the traffic light and took a left turn heading for some lunch. I patiently waited at the red light with butterflies in my stomach and then the light turned green. Well, my patience ran thin so I slammed the throttle to the floor...HOLY SMOKES!!!! As I drifted around the corner IN 2ND GEAR into a beautiful transition I think I may have pinched one off (TOOTED)...as well as the driver behind me...HA!

I thought to myself...I just want to give QCTLG a good ole butt slap like they do in football and say "Good Job Son!" (I'm not gay, by the way)

Anywho, the plus side to this is EVERYTHING WORKED...EVEN THE CRUISE CONTROL!!!

LETS DO THIS!!!

LMAO! Too fun a story! Btw, bet the 5.0 would be even more wild...

 

[j-georges]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

i have a 2012 sedan 5.0 r-spec and my fuse block is totally different.
Has anyone looked at theirs yet and found how to kill the esc function ?
Thanks

Please !

 

[daviderle]

Re: Turning ESC off ...for real

Please !

Well, I always love a good challenge, since I only had 22k on my 2009, I could not bring myself to upgrade so my boss got one (2012 R-Spec)...

I will ask if he can let me have a look and see if I can recreate that magic again, although he might argue that the 5.0 is already way too fast as it is (for such a big sedan)...

What I find may not be the final solution but could provide a good start for someone else who is willing to take it a little further (just like the first time around http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showpost.php?p=22405&postcount=13)...

 

[daviderle]

Ok, the ESC fuse is located on the driver seat fuse box. Open the driver door, the fuse box is located on the side of the dash board, there is a plastic latch, pull and gently remove the cover, the ECS is the second (15A) fuse on bottom row from the left (on the right of two large fuses).

Although it might be a little farfetched; it seems interesting to note that Hyundai has chosen to move the only engine related fuse to this location, it is almost that somehow they listened to us and the engineers did not wish for anyone to breach the cabin firewall! Other things they seem to have taken into account with the 2012 model include; changed the turning signal sound from ‘click, click’ to a much more subtle ‘tip, tip’, as well as the front grille redesign from the what some perceived an aggressive design (as I recall some called it ‘Klingon like&#8217 to a more gentle chrome lines in addition to the various other items mentioned by others as well as the press.

At any rate, with ‘bonus’ time around the corner, I think it is best not experiment with the boss’s vehicle as it may have a negative impact should something goes wrong with that experiment.

Good luck to anyone wishing to find out if the same fuse removal principles apply to the R-Spec 2012 model, although from what I have observed, you will find that the O2 Sensor campaign (ECU update provided by your dealer) will have a lot more positive performance impact than simply being able to burn lots of rubber.

I would imagine those 19” tires will cost a bit more than our 18” tires found on our 4.6 model.

Good luck, and keep us posted should someone decides to try to remove that fuse on the R-Spec sedan.

 

[j-georges]

I started the car, pulled the fuse, hit the ESC button, re-installed the fuse and tried it. It acts exactly the same as if I had just pushed the ESC button. Charged out of the hole, hit second and then ditched as if I had hit the brakes. N.G.

Any other thoughts ? Am I missing something ? ???

 

[daviderle]

I started the car, pulled the fuse, hit the ESC button, re-installed the fuse and tried it. It acts exactly the same as if I had just pushed the ESC button. Charged out of the hole, hit second and then ditched as if I had hit the brakes. N.G.

Any other thoughts ? Am I missing something ? ???

Few questions;

1 - Did the ESC light come on when you pulled the fuse?
2 - Did you wait at least 7-10 seconds after you pulled the fuse and pressed the button before reinserting the fuse?
3 - Did the ESC light stay illuminated after you re-inserted the fuse?

4 - What happens if you pull the fuse and leave it out while you give it another try?

If you find after test 4 that ESC is disabled (i.e. you keep going), are there any instruments that are affected? For example, the speedometer or any other caution lights?

(Disclaimer: Please be safe out there and to keep in mind that these experiments could affect the vehicle stability and may affect your warranty as well...)

 

[j-georges]

Hi daviderle,

I had go out of town, sorry for the delay.

I tried again last night.
Started car, removed fuse ( 1+ minutes ),
No ESC light.
Pressed ESC button for 30 seconds. No difference, in fact it acts like the fuse is still in. ESC off lights up when button is pushed for one second or one minute.
Shut motor and restarted ( fuse still out ).
No difference. Everything as if fuse was still in.

I looked at the fuse cover to re-check myself.

I noted that the fuse is labeled ECS not ESC.
I don't know it it is labeled wrong of if this is the wrong fuse, I think it is the latter.

Put it back together rather let down, but still glad to be home with my own car!

Let me know your thoughts,
Jim Georges

 

[TimC]

Ok, the ESC fuse is located on the driver seat fuse box. Open the driver door, the fuse box is located on the side of the dash board, there is a plastic latch, pull and gently remove the cover, the ECS is the second (15A) fuse on bottom row from the left (on the right of two large fuses).

Although it might be a little farfetched; it seems interesting to note that Hyundai has chosen to move the only engine related fuse to this location, it is almost that somehow they listened to us and the engineers did not wish for anyone to breach the cabin firewall! Other things they seem to have taken into account with the 2012 model include; changed the turning signal sound from ‘click, click’ to a much more subtle ‘tip, tip’, as well as the front grille redesign from the what some perceived an aggressive design (as I recall some called it ‘Klingon like’) to a more gentle chrome lines in addition to the various other items mentioned by others as well as the press.

At any rate, with ‘bonus’ time around the corner, I think it is best not experiment with the boss’s vehicle as it may have a negative impact should something goes wrong with that experiment.

Good luck to anyone wishing to find out if the same fuse removal principles apply to the R-Spec 2012 model, although from what I have observed, you will find that the O2 Sensor campaign (ECU update provided by your dealer) will have a lot more positive performance impact than simply being able to burn lots of rubber.

I would imagine those 19” tires will cost a bit more than our 18” tires found on our 4.6 model.

Good luck, and keep us posted should someone decides to try to remove that fuse on the R-Spec sedan.

I hate to bump a two month old thread, but the information in this reply is wrong and most likely will make for some to waste a lot of time pulling the wrong fuse.

The ESC fuse is still in the engine bay on the 2012 R-Spec.
The one on the side of the dashboard is the ECS, a completely different system and disabling it is of no use here.

According the the R-Spec Owners Manual, the correct 10AMP fuse is marked VDC/ESC in the Engine Bay (not to be confused with the two 30AMP fuses marked VDC/ESC1 and VDC/ESC2)

 

[Seattle Genesis]

We need a YouTube video on drifting , smoking or chirping.

 

[TimC]

We need a YouTube video on drifting , smoking or chirping.

Agreed.
Care to donate a set of 19 inchers for the cause?

The only one we have so far is the now infamous PingGolf YouTube video.
I'll bet the guy in the pickup in the other lane had to go back home for a short-change after seeing that tire smok'n Genny drifting towards him...