2015 Hyundai Genesis V8 vs V6

[larry'sown]

There has to be an error with reported 0-60 in 7 seconds. All reviews I have read state that the V6 performance is as good if not better than the 2014.

There have been no reported 0-60 times. These are nothing more than unscientific estimates and guesstimates with multiple people on board.

 

[ksoze]

I'm still trying to figure out how the 5.0 gained around 400 lbs with the same engine. Although the official weight specs are not in one place or N/A, the V6 appears to have only picked up around 130 lbs. What does the 5.0 have in the trunk?

 

[Mark_888]

Well, that's simply incorrect. The CDC in the normal setting is softer than the standard shocks and and the sport setting is firmer than the standard shocks. This is primary benefit to an adjustable suspension. You can have a softer riding car for cruisimg and a firmer suspension for the twisties. This also helps with weight transfer. The slight(and make no mistake about it, it is slight) weight advantage with the V6 is mitigated with CDC.

I have no personal knowledge of this subject, and was just reporting what many of the professional auto reviewers said (the CDC sport mode was about the same as the V6 standard suspension).

The F/R weight distribution advantage for the V6 has been noted by many professional auto reviewers since 2009, and I doubt that the 2015 is any different. You cannot overcome the laws of physics.

This is starting to sound like people trying to convince me that candy tastes better than broccoli (true) and that candy is also better nutritionally (false). You can't have it both ways, a smaller/lighter engine is going to be less powerful, but the car will be more nimble. That's the way it has been for billions of years.

 

[ksoze]

You can't have it both ways, a smaller/lighter engine is going to be less powerful, but the car will be more nimble. That's the way it has been for billions of years.

I believe that was the case on Fred Flintstones car - Barney's always seem to be faster. Must of been the smaller feet

 

[Midnightsun]

There have been no reported 0-60 times. These are nothing more than unscientific estimates and guesstimates with multiple people on board.

Here is one with 6.8 which is almost a full second slower in comparison to the previous model. Have no clue where they dug up this number from though. http://www.topspeed.com/cars/hyundai/2015-hyundai-genesis-ar126736.html

 

[Mark_888]

I believe that was the case on Fred Flintstones car - Barney's always seem to be faster. Must of been the smaller feet

My experience is that the ones with the smaller feet feel the need for the bigger engines.

 

[gameday22]

This is why I think the V6 will actually perform better overall than the V8, also I hope that performance parts manufacturers will actually have some parts for the V6 sedans this time around:


INTELLIGENT DRIVE MODE 3.8 V6 HTRAC

Normal, Sport, Eco and Snow modes alter steering, transmission, throttle, and suspension to give you control tailored to each environment and condition. In Normal mode, HTRAC actively optimizes torque flow, to achieve maximum traction, regardless of the road condition. In Sport mode, HTRAC can transfer as much as 90% of the torque to the rear wheels for a more fun-to-drive experience on dry pavement.

The HTRAC all-wheel-drive system adds 165 pounds. That's not much, but the Genesis as a whole is no lightweight. Hyundai's engineers didn't talk much about using advanced materials to lighten the load, and it shows in the car's curb weight of 4,138 pounds for a V6 rear-drive model, which is slightly heavier than the previous Genesis.

Where did the extra weight come from? A good 84 pounds or so came from new sound-deadening insulation, such as thicker doors and improved sealing. Hyundai says there are decreased vibrations, too, via the new rigidity of the body shell.

2015 Hyundai Genesis

All those pounds make for a car that feels about average when it comes to acceleration. Hyundai didn't quote any numbers, but we expect it will fall about midpack within its segment of competitors. Although the V8 model clearly has more low-end punch, it doesn't feel appreciably faster than the V6. In fact, the only reason we can see to get the 5.0 over the 3.8 is if you really must be able to tell people that you sprung for the V8.

 

[gameday22]

I'm still trying to figure out how the 5.0 gained around 400 lbs with the same engine. Although the official weight specs are not in one place or N/A, the V6 appears to have only picked up around 130 lbs. What does the 5.0 have in the trunk?

Approximately 85lbs of sound deadening and other body materials, plus don't forget it now has an adaptive suspension system which the previous generation didn't. Also all of the upgraded tech features I'd imagine add another 15-25lbs, the more tech running through the car the more wires etc. The V6 HTRAC system adds 165lbs, then you still have to add the additional materials and such same as the V8. So the V6 with all the options and AWD according to the reviews I've read is only about 125-150lbs lighter as an end result. Damn the gas mileage, I want the AWD model in a couple of years once the initial tweaks have been made

 

[ksoze]

Approximately 85lbs of sound deadening and other body materials, plus don't forget it now has an adaptive suspension system which the previous generation didn't. Also all of the upgraded tech features I'd imagine add another 15-25lbs once you consider all of the extra wiring and such needed.

But the V6 also has all that same sound deadening and tech gear (except for the CDC suspension) and it did not ballon in weight like a freshman in college.

 

[Cut-Throat]

To all of the proponents of the 'V6 will handle better than the V8'....

Would you also say this about the First Generation Genesis?

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[gameday22]

But the V6 also has all that same sound deadening and tech gear (except for the CDC suspension) and it did not ballon in weight like a freshman in college.

I'm not sure, just going off of articles I have read...also the weight of the V8's engine, tires +++.....it all adds up quickly.

 

[gameday22]

To all of the proponents of the 'V6 will handle better than the V8'....

Would you also say this about the First Generation Genesis?

First generation, probably not in my opinion. Fast forward to 2012+ and I'd say the field was somewhat leveled between the two cars. My 2013 V6 is plenty quick beyond the stupid pedal lag we all deal with.



The V8 is nice and I've had the opportunity to be in an RSpec for an extended period of time while my car was in for repairs. When I replaced my car last year with a 2013 I drove both, once again deciding that for my purpose the V6 was more then enough fun when you get on it. The AWD is a game changer for the V6 from a performance standpoint so long as your willing to give up the gas mileage. If they eventually offer the V8 in AWD to the US market.... then it would probably be (god I just have to say this)..."The Ultimate Driving Machine" lol.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Any videos?

No. Only this trailer for the new blockbuster of Summer 2014 coming to theaters soon: Just Driving...

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[Sal Collaziano]

a smaller/lighter engine is going to be less powerful, but the car will be more nimble. That's the way it has been for billions of years.

Wait a minute. Cars have not been around for billions of years...

My experience is that the ones with the smaller feet feel the need for the bigger engines.

If only there were a V12 for me...

 

[gameday22]

Wait a minute. Cars have not been around for billions of years...



If only there were a V12 for me...

...................Lmao.

 

[ksoze]

Wait a minute. Cars have not been around for billions of years...

Hence the earlier Flintstone reference...

 

[Cut-Throat]

First generation, probably not in my opinion. Fast forward to 2012+ and I'd say the field was somewhat leveled between the two cars. My 2013 V6 is plenty quick beyond the stupid pedal lag we all deal with.

So, disregarding price which would you rather own and drive, a V6 with Tech or an R Spec 2014 Genesis?

I am trying to make that decision right now. I don't really care about price that much. In fact I don't even know how much cheaper a 2014 V6 with Tech would be than an R Spec. Do You ? It looks like I can get an R Spec for around $39K...... What's a V6 with Tech go for ?

 

[gameday22]

So, disregarding price which would you rather own and drive, a V6 with Tech or an R Spec 2014 Genesis?

I am trying to make that decision right now. I don't really care about price that much. In fact I don't even know how much cheaper a 2014 V6 with Tech would be than an R Spec. Do You ? It looks like I can get an R Spec for around $39K...... What's a V6 with Tech go for ?

I guess if you don't care about pricing get a 2014 but to me for the few differences between a 2013 vs. a 2014 I'd pick the 13 just because of the big price gap:

A 2014 V6 on Truecar with just the Tech Package is $37,702 while an RSpec shows @ $39,987.

By comparison you can get a 2013 V6 with Tech & Premium for $30,476 and an RSpec for $37,792 or better. I got my 2013 Tech+Premium last November for just under $31k so I bet you can really get a great deal now, even back then the RSpec that was sitting on the lot was just over $35k.

 

[Cut-Throat]

I guess if you don't care about pricing get a 2014 but to me for the few differences between a 2013 vs. a 2014 I'd pick the 13 just because of the big price gap:

A 2014 V6 on Truecar with just the Tech Package is $37,702 while an RSpec shows @ $39,987.

By comparison you can get a 2013 V6 with Tech & Premium for $30,476 and an RSpec for $37,792 or better. I got my 2013 Tech+Premium last November for just under $31k so I bet you can really get a great deal now, even back then the RSpec that was sitting on the lot was just over $35k.

In 2011 when I bought the V8, it was only about a $2 Grand Difference. So, that is what it appears to be now. The Heated Steering Wheel, The Lighted Door Siils and 429 HP may be worth it!

 

[DRS]

Perhaps it's just politically correct for most of the media to suggest the V6 is the model you should buy...

^^^ +1 environmental LibJob freaks infest auto journalism way too deep. They are nuts, and show their loony biases. In this case, making the case for a smaller power plant.