amartz
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2014 Genesis-V6 Black/Black-Just now turned 7900 miles.
I am not real fond of this car.
Really?
2014 Genesis-V6 Black/Black-Just now turned 7900 miles.
I am not real fond of this car.
Really?
There are quite a few previous Acura TL owners here along with myself. Not bashing the Acura but it does not hold a candle to the Genesis.![]()
OK - If we're listing all the cars we've owned, get ready, because I started driving in 1973.
1st car I ever owned -1964 Buick Skylark convertible
if its coming to acura cars they in the segment called near luxury car
genesis is luxury car as same as BMW and Audi and Mercedes that it have a rear wheel drive chassis that it separate between the two segments beside that the full loaded car and what it has of premium materials
after looking at what some current genesis owners have owned/leased in the past...i'd say the genesis is definitely a competitor to german and japanese so called premium vehicles!
I guess the question is how you define competition. In image, technology and performance the Genesis does generally not hold a candle to the German offerings. It excels on value - you get a lot of content for a relatively affordable price.
I owned an Audi A8L and an Audi A6 previously - I went the Genesis route because I don't want to spend what Audi asks for their cars - I would not argue that the Genesis is better or even at eye level with the current Audi A6 or BMW 5-series or Mercedes-Benz E-class. Moving from an Acura or Infinity is a lateral move mostly.
I assume the Genesis is a choice based on value for many people, and some of the threads here in the forum seem to support that assumption, based on the pricing discussions that are going on there. I am simply not willing to spend $1,000/month to lease an Audi A6 that is similarly equipped to my Genesis with the Ultimate package, which leases for under $450/month. If the price were closer, the Audi would be in my Garage, no contest. Better technology (full LCD dash, navigation with better Google maps integration, quattro all wheel drive, the list goes on) and better performance (acceleration, and fuel economy), better image (if that's important, for some people it matters).
The German brands are all growing, so Hyundai is not taking significant sales away from them. The Genesis brand (as well as other tier 2 near luxury brands) is appealing to people who are not willing to spend top dollar on a premium brand.
To me the Genesis competes with other luxury brands when people are willing to pay close to the same amount for these cars as they would pay for an equivalent offering from Germany's luxury brands or Lexus. Ask yourself if you would pay $65,000 for a Genesis with the Ultimate package - I know I wouldn't. That doesn't mean the Genesis isn't a good vehicle or excellent value though. I enjoy mine, but I don't pretend that it's something it clearly isn't either. It's "good enough", especially given the price most of us have paid for the car.
I guess the question is how you define competition. In image, technology and performance the Genesis does generally not hold a candle to the German offerings. It excels on value - you get a lot of content for a relatively affordable price.
I owned an Audi A8L and an Audi A6 previously - I went the Genesis route because I don't want to spend what Audi asks for their cars - I would not argue that the Genesis is better or even at eye level with the current Audi A6 or BMW 5-series or Mercedes-Benz E-class. Moving from an Acura or Infinity is a lateral move mostly.
I assume the Genesis is a choice based on value for many people, and some of the threads here in the forum seem to support that assumption, based on the pricing discussions that are going on there. I am simply not willing to spend $1,000/month to lease an Audi A6 that is similarly equipped to my Genesis with the Ultimate package, which leases for under $450/month. If the price were closer, the Audi would be in my Garage, no contest. Better technology (full LCD dash, navigation with better Google maps integration, quattro all wheel drive, the list goes on) and better performance (acceleration, and fuel economy), better image (if that's important, for some people it matters).
The German brands are all growing, so Hyundai is not taking significant sales away from them. The Genesis brand (as well as other tier 2 near luxury brands) is appealing to people who are not willing to spend top dollar on a premium brand.
To me the Genesis competes with other luxury brands when people are willing to pay close to the same amount for these cars as they would pay for an equivalent offering from Germany's luxury brands or Lexus. Ask yourself if you would pay $65,000 for a Genesis with the Ultimate package - I know I wouldn't. That doesn't mean the Genesis isn't a good vehicle or excellent value though. I enjoy mine, but I don't pretend that it's something it clearly isn't either. It's "good enough", especially given the price most of us have paid for the car.